Tuesday, November 28, 2006

More BCS Mess

Imagine if last year the NFL had reasoned that since Carolina had been so besieged with injuries, that they were going to face the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. The Panthers were without running back DeShaun Foster, and hey, they had to play the Seahawks on the road. It would only be fair to allow the Panthers another shot at the Seahawks on a neutral field right? Besides, the Steelers lost to the 6-10 Baltimore Ravens, so they didn't deserve to be in the Super Bowl.

You would all be in favor of this right?

Well, the people supporting Michigan for the BCS Championship Game probably would. The idea of Michigan getting a rematch with Ohio State is as lame as granting the loser of the AFC/NFC Championship Game another shot in the Super Bowl.

Michigan and Big 10 apologists feel that the Wolverines deserve another chance because a.) the game was close and 2.) Michigan had to play at Ohio State. First of all, if you felt that Ohio State was ever in danger of losing that game, watch it again. The Buckeyes were in control of that game throughout and Michigan's final touchdown only mattered to those who took the Wolverines and the points. As far as the home field thing goes, quit crying. It cycles in year after year. Besides, if you are going to grant Michigan a rematch, when is Wisconsin going to get its rematch? The Badgers played Michigan close, and you had better believe that if that game was at Camp Randal Stadium, things would have been different.

And Wisconsin did not lose to Ohio State, meaning they should be in line for a shot over Michigan. Right? Of course not. You know why? They lost to Michigan. Just like Michigan lost to Ohio State.

The bottom line is, if you don’t win your conference, you don’t deserve to play for the championship. Just like you can’t reach the Super Bowl without winning your conference, the same should apply to the BCS championship game. Sorry Michigan, you had your chance and you lost.

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

good work

DAWUSS said...

If UCLA beats USC then Florida takes on Ohio State

Diane said...

This sounds alot like arguing over who the contenders are for the Intercontinental Belt at the next Wrestlemania

Captain Literal said...

You intro to this post makes about as much sense as the BCS. Whaaaaa!?

Anonymous said...

the big 10 sucks ... in everything.

Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer said...

Yes, I am confused by this concept where you determine winners by who scores more points in a particular game. Computers, they scare me. Are there little men running around in there, pushing and pulling wires?

But I do know that the best way to determine a winner is with a computer instead of settling it on the field.

TJ Rubley said...

Michigan and Big 10 apologists feel that the Wolverines deserve another chance because a.) the game was close and 2.) Michigan had to play at Ohio State

Amazing. I just went to www.michiganandbigtenapologist.com and that's exactly what it said.

Anonymous said...

The BCS is right... No one could understand a playoff system in college football. It doesn't work. Computers are the only answer!

Juggy said...

You know, if a few instances of the word "Nebraska" were inserted here, the above oratory could conceivably compel one to lecture before an audience of wife and pets!

Seitz said...

Lame analogy. Please explain how, like the Seahawks in the NFC Championship game, Ohio State "earned" the right to play Michigan at home.

The Buckeyes were in control of that game throughout

Really? All the way throughout? Third and fifteen ring a bell? Dude hits Troy Smith about six inches lower and Michigan takes over down by four with a chance at the lead.

Look, I hate Michigan. And despite going to Illinois for law school, I grew up in Pac 10 country and am a Pac 10 fan first and foremost. But seriously, Oregon State? Oregon Freaking State? No team that loses to a team that can't beat UCLA in football deserves to play for the national championship.

Seitz said...

And Wisconsin did not lose to Ohio State

One reason Big Ten regular seasons suck. It's even worse come basketball season.

NFL Adam said...

The spread was 7, and it took a throw-away touchdown for Michigan to cover. There was no doubt Ohio State was going to win. The debate is over.

USC's non-conference schedule has included Arkansas, Nebraska and Notre Dame. Three ranked opponents. The Trojans played at Arkansas and will be in Lincoln and South Bend next season. Add Cal and Oregon to that mix and USC has gone out and proven that it is better than the other ranked competition.

Michigan's signature games are a win over Notre Dame (which SC did) and a "close" loss to Ohio State.

And seriously, this is your argument? It's laughable.

Seitz said...

Oregon State. 'Nuff said.

TJ Rubley said...

Gotta side with Seitz on the Oregon State point. And the assertion that OSU was in control throughout the Michigan game is, uh, well... I'm sure at halftime the Buckeyes went to the blackboard and chalked a plan to win by 3 points after foiling an onside kick.

Anonymous said...

Michigan lost to OSU
USC lost to OSU

What's the problem here?

NFL Adam said...

You realize that Oregon State is No. 24 in the BCS poll. It is not like they lost to some creme puff.

To play along with your hypothetical game, if Michigan and Ohio State played in a rematch, who would be the champion if Michigan defeated Ohio State in the BCS championship game? Because obviously head-to-head wins do not matter much.

Seitz said...

Neutral site makes all the difference. That's way sports with one and done championships play at neutral sites. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

It is not like they lost to some creme puff.

Any team that can't beat UCLA in football sucks by definition.

Seitz said...

That's way sports

Or rather, that's WHY sports....

NFL Adam said...

Neutral sites, kind of like how the World Series, NBA Finals and Stanley Cup is decided on a neutral field?

You know, if they had a four-team playoff, I would hesitate to put Michigan in that because, you know, they didn't win their conference.

Honestly, I think a lot of the reason people are pulling for Michigan to be in the title game because the team in question is USC. If it was Arizona State, Oregon or even San Diego State who was 11-1 with wins over five or six ranked teams, there would not be much controversy. It just seems that people are sick of USC. But that's just a working theory.

G. Loose said...

...and San Diego State played Wisconsin close, who played Michigan close, so shouldn't the mighty Aztecs get a shot at the BCS title?

Anonymous said...

I miss the all-caps guy. He was fun.

Seitz said...

I think someone needs to work on their reading comprehension skills...

That's [why] sports with one and done championships...

the World Series, NBA Finals and Stanley Cup

Boy, last time I checked, those championships were all decided by a series of games, played at the home venues of both teams involved, unlike, say, the Super Bowl, or the NCAA basketball championship.

Honestly, I think a lot of the reason people are pulling for Michigan to be in the title game because the team in question is USC.

I don't. Even Jeff Sagarin says home field is worth at least three points. OSU beat UM by three at home, meaning the two teams are really even. And if Michigan is even with the team that everyone agrees is number one, then they should be playing in the national championship game. It's logic.

NFL Adam said...

Logic says that if you beat a team, you are better than them. Home, away, or whatever. But some how this is the message that gets lost on the Michigan supporters.

Sorry if you can't see that. Enjoy watching USC in the title game.

TJ Rubley said...

I never said I wanted an OSU/Michigan rematch (yet that strawman just keeps popping up.) What I said was that your assertion that the OSU/Mich game was never close is baloney. You know it, and you should let go of it, because it weakens the other points you're trying to make.

I actually hope USC gets the nod. Watching the turd land in their punchbowl last year was pure Hater Heaven.

NFL Adam said...

I had money on the game and was (expletive)ing my pants waiting for Michigan to cover a 7-point spread. The final score was way more deceiving than people are giving it credit for. It is what they call in gambling circles a back-door cover. Now, in my book, back-door covers are only "classic" when you have huge money on the game. Which I did not.

The Texas v. USC game last year? That was a classic. That was close. Twenty or 30 seconds either way could have made that game different.

Michigan, all they needed to do was to recover an onsides-kick and throw a desperation bomb into the end zone. That happens all of the time. Just ask Doug Flutie.

DAWUSS said...

So if UCLA pulls off the Upset of the Century, who should play Ohio State? Florida? Boise State?

Seitz said...

So you're saying there is no such thing as home field advantage, or if there is, it's essentially meaningless? Because that's the logical extrapolation of your post.

TJ Rubley said...

Michigan, all they needed to do was to recover an onsides-kick and throw a desperation bomb into the end zone.

No, it was a 3-point game. In football, there's a deal where you can score three points for kicking the ball between the uprights. It sounds kind of convoluted, I know, but you'd be surprised how many games are decided that way.

Look, if you're going to keep insisting that game wasn't close, I'm not wasting any more life rings. Go ahead and cling to that red and gold brick.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention the fact that there was 1:37 left in the game.

Seitz said...

You don't even have to bring up the onside kick. Third and 15. All Michigan had to do was not commit a personal foul (a good call on a what's a really stupid rule, by the way), and they have the ball down four points with about six minutes to play.

daddy said...

I agree with NFL Adam on all points, including the fact that the game wasn't as close as it appeared.

And Seitz, your points lose all credibility because of the "any team that lost to UCLA" argument. You've got personal issues wrapped up in that one, which makes you walking with with blinders on.

West Side Slant said...

Michigan fan is living in a world full of "ifs". Let me simplify this. There are three reasons (besides SC being better) the Wolverines shouldn't and won't be playing for the crystal:

1. Vanderbilt
2. Central Michigan
3. Ball State

Nice scheduling

Anonymous said...

I agree with NFL Adam on all points, including the fact that the game wasn't as close as it appeared.

MILF Adam also said MI was down by a touchdown and would have had to throw a Hail Mary on their first down with 1:37 remaining. Funny how football appears through red and yellow goggles.

Anonymous said...

Can you guys run through this argument one more time? You went in more circles than your typical NASCAR race.

daddy said...

"Funny how football appears through red and yellow goggles."

Dittos.

You may not want to admit it, but it was catch up for Michigan the WHOLE GAME. They just couldn't stop the Buckeyes.

peralta said...

Guess what?

IT DOESN'T MATTER. Michigan will not get into the National Title game regardless if USC wins or loses. I gurantee they will not put them above Florida. They can't do it. I don't care if the SEC is overrated. They still won their conference, which happens to be one of the top 3 conferences in the country year in and year out.

Go bucks. Michigan can blow a dick.

Anonymous said...

Peralta's argument above doesn't hold water. Neither does daddy's. The other side wins, hands down. End of story and discussion.

peralta said...

Actually, my side wins. That is, of course, because i am a Buckeyes fan.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Nope. Your side loses. Discussion is now over.

JichaelDick said...

You people saying that even if USC loses Michigan is SOL are forgetting one tiny point...Arkansas still has a chance to beat Florida in the SEC Championship Game.

But if USC wins, they absolutely deserve to make it to the title game. Cal, Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Nebraska are too good of wins not to reward them

Seitz said...

Oregon State.

Seitz said...

And now UCLA.